Sea Breeze

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  What's next?

  by lastmanstanding in

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  what's next for the world?

  a year ago i edited a map of the world to include some big arrows to tell the story of what is to come.

  and i shared that map with various friends.

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  Sea Breeze

  Just trying to work through some of your definitions here.

  Are you assuming that the Last Day, the 1st Resurrection and the Rapture are all the same event?

  If so, you need to take into consideration that the first resurrection takes place in various stages. Jesus Christ Himself (the “first fruits,” 1 Corinthians 15:20), paved the way for the resurrection of all who believe in Him. There will be the resurrection of “the dead in Christ” at the Lord’s return (1 Thessalonians 4:16) and the resurrection of the martyrs at the end of the tribulation (Revelation 20:4). The Old Testament saints will also be raised at the end of the tribulation, and they are also part of the first resurrection.

  
  
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  Vice President Kamala Harris…your thoughts??

  by minimus in

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  good pick?

  bad pick?

  helpful to president biden?

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  Sea Breeze

  Wait a minute, didn't I recall that she was sworn in as the first INDIAN senator BACK in 2017? But now, she's running a the first BLACK woman president?

  
  
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  Thanking Jehovah God for Sports

  by Sea Breeze in

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  serena william's thanks jehovah god for allowing her to participate in sports.

  how nice.

  my jw parents followed the rules and thought they were doing jehovahs will by denying me participation in sports.

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  Sea Breeze

  Yep. Only in the upside down world of the far left can a man get a trophy on national Television for beating the snot out of a woman. Kamallah Harris for President!

  
  
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  Disfellowshipping and Excutions

  by blondie in

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  *w60 2/1 80 - 17 there may be rare instances where a child is so hardened in its stubbornness that even the rod of correction cannot drive it out.

  in the days of israel parents were instructed by jehovah to take such a rebel to the city fathers and they, in turn, took the incorrigible one out and stoned him to death.

  there were no juvenile delinquents under such a system.

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  Sea Breeze

  There may be rare instances where a child is so hardened in its stubbornness that even the rod of correction cannot drive it out.

  Oh, but they sure as hell tried.
  
  

  This is Major Tom to Ground Control

  I'm stepping through the door

  And I'm floating in a most peculiar way

  And the stars look very different today

  
  

  
  
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  What's next?

  by lastmanstanding in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  what's next for the world?

  a year ago i edited a map of the world to include some big arrows to tell the story of what is to come.

  and i shared that map with various friends.

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  Sea Breeze

  Duran,

  You still are trying to ignore the scriptures I present and the fundamental problem you have is with trying to lump Church-Age Christians who have been saved with Tribulation Saints who may be saved. Until you address how BOTH are true, not just one to the exclusion of the other, your theology will be inconsistent. If inconsistent, it is very likely to be wrong.
  
  Regarding your last post. I think you will find this source to provide a very even-handed treatment of the point I believe you are trying to make.
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  What's next?

  by lastmanstanding in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  what's next for the world?

  a year ago i edited a map of the world to include some big arrows to tell the story of what is to come.

  and i shared that map with various friends.

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  Sea Breeze

  @Duran

  You just showed that you are aware that during the GT people are saved by their faith enduring the hardships upon them at that time. And YES, there is salvation NOW in having that faith because that is the promise/understanding attached to this faith.

  You are adding to scripture. Gods Word presents a past tense, finished condition for church-age believers, not a “promise” like you are stating. You cant have it both ways. It is inconsistent to say Christians are saved now at the moment they are born again; but the Tribulation saints aren’t saved until later when they have endured to the end.

  Those two conditions are NOT the same. Something has changed.

  That something is the rapture and the emergence of the tribulation saints after the Church is gone.
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  77

  What's next?

  by lastmanstanding in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  what's next for the world?

  a year ago i edited a map of the world to include some big arrows to tell the story of what is to come.

  and i shared that map with various friends.

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  Sea Breeze

  So you deny the books in the New Testament are Gods Word. Ok. Bye, bye now.
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  What's next?

  by lastmanstanding in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  what's next for the world?

  a year ago i edited a map of the world to include some big arrows to tell the story of what is to come.

  and i shared that map with various friends.

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  Sea Breeze

  Kerry, Kerry, Kerry,

  Early Christians didn't have the NT, it hadn't been written yet. They had some letters, that's all.

  What do you think the letters were other than scripture?
  
  
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  What's next?

  by lastmanstanding in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  what's next for the world?

  a year ago i edited a map of the world to include some big arrows to tell the story of what is to come.

  and i shared that map with various friends.

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  Sea Breeze

  What? That's crazy. The apostles were writing NT scripture. I don't know what you are trying to prove. I don't know what your point is.
  
  Scripture says that if we teach a gospel other than what the apostles taught we are cursed.

  But even if we or an angel from heaven should preach to you a gospel contrary to the one we preached to you, let him be accursed. 9 As we have said before, so now I say again: If anyone is preaching to you a gospel contrary to the one you received, let him be accursed. - Gal. 1: 8-9

  The NT is the PRIMARY scripture for Christians. Early Christians considered it their only textbook, as do pretty much Christians today.
  
  
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  What's next?

  by lastmanstanding in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  what's next for the world?

  a year ago i edited a map of the world to include some big arrows to tell the story of what is to come.

  and i shared that map with various friends.

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  Sea Breeze

  The GT gives the chance to show/prove one's faith.

  Duran,

  Think about it. Why would a Christian need to suffer to prove their faith when the many scriptures I presented prove Christians enjoy Salvation NOW?

  John 10:28

  I give them eternal life, and they will never perish, and no one will snatch them out of my hand.

  John 5:13

  I write these things to you who believe in the name of the Son of God, that you may know that you have eternal life.

  Ephesians 2:8

  For by grace you have been saved through faith. And this is not your own doing; it is the gift of God,

  Romans 8:1

  There is therefore now no condemnation for those who are in Christ Jesus.

  Romans 5:1

  Therefore, since we have been justified by faith, we have peace with God through our Lord Jesus Christ.

  Your theology requires ignoring all these scriptures above. Remember, ALL scripture is inspired and beneficial for teaching... not just some of them. Rightly Divide!

  The reality is that the Church will be gone and along with it some of the perks they enjoyed. People can still be saved by faith during the GT, like you say; but that aint us. They will have to endure MUCH hardship and probably most will be murdered or die prematurely due to starvation or other unsavory conditions.